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[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 11 points 20 hours ago (14 children)

There are MPs who query whether it is worth waiting for defeat to prove that the leader is a dud when you could avert damage by ditching him now. Others argue that any opinion-poll bounce generated by fresh leadership is a precious, one-off resource, best held in reserve until much closer to a general election.

Second sentence here is false and also cowardly. Getting trashed in the 2026 elections means losing lots of peole who do the groundwork of fighting elections.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

Getting a new leader will probably not fix anything though. Starmer's incredibly unpopularity isn't because it's Starmer, it's because he's the Prime Minister and, worse than that, the Labour Prime Minister.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, he's now just about the most unpopular PM ever, so it's safe to say there's something worse than usual going on.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah we have a combined COVID and Ukraine inflation bomb after 14 years of underinvestment...

I mean look at Starmer's missteps compared to the missteps of all the Tory PMs. Somehow Starmer is less popular than all of them. I think it's therefore safe to say that his unpopularity is not mostly due to things he's doing wrong, because in spite of it all, he's still doing better than any recent Tory leader.

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