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I don’t know. Perhaps I’ll start with the fact it’s highly unlikely a Muslim country would allow a trans male to represent them in boxing at the Olympics?
How about you pass that bar first?
Khelif was incorrectly assigned female at birth and is not trans. Many people with male DSDs like that don't find that they're not female until puberty
Correct. She’s a woman. That’s why her country allowed her to box as one.
What evidence do you have that Khelif is female?
More than you do that she isn’t. Your link was dogshit. She may have high testosterone et al counts for a woman but she is still a woman.
Beyond that you are well aware that a) I haven’t looked at her naked body and b) probably aware that I’m not a sports or medical scientist connected to her career so stop your bullshit; it’s a lazy, garbage call to make. The evidence I have is that she represents a Muslim country and they would make damn sure she’s a woman.
She’s certainly a lot closer to a woman than a man that’s for sure. Furthermore, she’s been beaten in competition by other women, so she can be beaten.
I can tell you don’t have a great understanding of the boxing world. I’ll say this much; there’s a lot of women boxers with high natural hormonal counts. They’re tough women with quite a few of them well toward the male end of the spectrum. I know some of them can’t wait to have a crack at Khelif because they know shes the best, both physically and mentally.
Time to pack it up ay? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Apart from ad hominems, your entire argument is based on being incorrect about how Islam views intersex people? Islam has policies that are pragmatic for the time period they were invented in, but are based on logic like "if they have to pee sitting down then they're women".
Completely inadequate for ensuring fairness in sports, and Algeria would have 0 issues with a biological male representing them in women's sports if approved by a fatwa relying on such primitive logic.
Nope, it’s based on the fact she’s had to prove she’s a woman before she can enter international sports events and tournaments.
None of that is my logic, that’s your dog shit interpretation. Because you think in such a fashion does not mean the rest of us do.
She is a woman, perhaps with high testosterone readings as many women have but she’s still a woman. Your current Olympic Women’s gold medallist in the relevant division, what’s more.
How about you arseholes just leave her alone to enjoy her achievements? Something you’d never get close to.
The "proof" consisted solely of checking that the passport said "F", which is what Khelif's says due to being incorrectly assigned female at birth. That's why new verification requirements are being added, because the old ones were laughably bad.
Khelif is biologically male, as verified by several independent sex tests (i.e. has testes, produces sperm, went through male puberty). Nobody that has seen the results will go on record saying that Khelif is female, but several different people have publicly stated that they've seen the tests and Khelif is male. The IOC itself admitted that it's a DSD issue (read: biologically male), and Khelif keeps chickening out when it comes to sex verification tests for some strange reason, even trying to fight new policies that require them going forward.
Why bother trying to push a false narrative? We went through the same process with Caster Semenya ("oh just a woman with high testosterone") who turned out to be biologically male as well and even fathered two children. What do you get out of deluding yourself?
Pretty sure the national boxing federation of her country know that she’s a woman. I’m fairly certain several of her coaches, doctors and support staff have a bit more to go on than her word.
Yeah it’s called ‘trust me bro’. As good as what I have I suppose, though I’ll take Muslim country only letting a woman box as a woman.
I’m pushing jack shit. I’m satisfied with what stands. I’m happy she’s a woman. Those who beat her don’t give a fick and neither do most she’s beaten. I’d be happy with it if she was a trans woman but she’s a woman so yeah. You’re the one pushing a narrative.