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[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Sorry I used the wrong word in my comment. It's corrected.

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I get what you mean, I'm just arguing that there is too much focus on "health marketing", instead of important things like macros and regulating known carcinogens.

If I eat a mcdouble and a diet coke, I'm eating much healthier than if I ate a whole rotissery chicken with potato wedges and a glass of apple juice. Calories and reducing sugar intake are the most important things.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Yes, but you can only compare the comparable. If you eat the same amount of calories from ultra-processed food and from unprocessed or minimally processed food, the ultra-processed will cause more health problems than the unprocessed food (for example, you'll gain more body fat, but there are other problems).

Ultra-processed food is unhealthy.

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I believe you're basing that off of pseudoscience.

An ultra-processed food (UPF) is a grouping of processed food characterized by relatively involved methods of production. There is no simple definition of UPF, but they are generally understood to be an industrial creation derived from natural food or synthesized from other organic compounds.[1][2] The resulting products are designed to be highly profitable, convenient, and hyperpalatable, often through food additives such as preservatives, colourings, and flavourings.[3] UPFs have often undergone processes such as moulding/extruding, hydrogenation, or frying.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-processed_food

What processes contribute to fat cells stocking lipids, and/or the replication of fat cells, and how do they relate to "ultraprocessed food"?

Which aspects of "ultraprocessed food" affect these processes, and which are harmless part of human food that has existed for thousands of years? Which aspects also affect "natural foods", such as pesticides and artifical hormones? Are there any studies supporting your hypothesis that aren't merely correlations based on socioeconomic biases?

[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here's one pathway, and I'm sure there are more:

Ultra-processed food are high in carbohydrates, refined sugars, and industrially processed oils. When consumed, they are quickly and easily absorbed by the body causing a rapid increase in blood glucose, easily proven by a CGM. The body responds by producing insulin. High insulin levels contribute to fat cells stocking lipids and also the replication of fat cells.

which are harmless part of human food that has existed for thousands of years

There are almost no whole foods that exist which contain all three major macronutrients, but this is not uncommon in UPFs. Personally, I would just avoid UPFs entirely.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

If you want to know more, you can read for example, this recent study.

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