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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
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What are the feelings on his margin of victory though? Finally folks had the option to vote for a real progressive, but in New York of all places he barely made it. That does not bode well for progressives elsewhere, no? Or do y'all think this is the first step of a sea change? (Not American, and just curious how Americans look at this)
He beat Cuomo by almost 10% in spite of all the things mentioned in the post. That's the opposite of "barely made it" and thus a GREAT sign for progressives.
And before you mention that Adams won his general election by a bigger margin: he was only running against that lunatic Sliwa and had the entire establishment on his side, so a blowout was pretty much a given the moment he barely eked out a win in the primaries with TONS of assistance.
Ah, I meant barely an absolute majority. From what I understand, Cuomo shouldn't have been a serious contender either. But I guess in the current landscape he's a middle of the road kinda guy...
That's the rub: your understanding of just how massive and powerful the establishment apparatus he was up against is appears to be woefully lacking.
And much more importantly, the guy that the establishment overwhelmingly favors. That's the REAL challenge much more than Cuomo himself.
So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks? Somehow, I expected better of New York ers. Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge, in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout...
In a word: yes.
And sometimes also win.
Unlikely. With the possible exceptions of Chicago and the California statewide elections, New York is THE home of establishment Democrats. It's where both Schumer and Jeffries come from, not to mention the NYT and countless Neoliberal "strategists" (read: propagandist apparatchiks)
Oh dear, so when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment... So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they're up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance? (Thanks for your patience with me, it's hard to get this kind of insights through international media)
I mean the entire establishment, but since we're talking about NY, the Democrat establishment is more relevant than the rest, yes.
In the NYC mayoral election? Without a doubt. Other than the Juliani-Bloomberg anomaly, there hasn't been a Republican mayor of New York City since the 1960s.
No worries, it's nice to explain things to someone who's genuinely curious rather than desperately trying to cling to their pet misinformation for once 😁