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[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (44 children)

I had a lot of issues with people because I refused to buy meat for my daughter. Why should I spend my money on something I believe is unethical to placate other people's feelings about my daughter?

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (43 children)

It sounds like a lot of people had issues with you for imposing your beliefs and limitations on a child who was too young to consent.

Malnutrition is a very real risk for someone who doesn’t consume meat. It’s very hard to eat enough protein, especially for a growing child. That makes malnutrition a very real risk- your child may not grow as strong or as tall or as healthy as they may have without your restrictions.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Well, I mean, first of all it is my job as a parent to "impose my beliefs and limitations" onto my child. We pretend it's not, but it is in everything I tell my children.

And then

Malnutrition is a very real risk for someone who doesn’t consume meat

No, it's not. It can be for vegans. But just not eating meat (aka vegetarian) has no malnutrition risk.

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

One might argue your job is to do what’s best for the child despite your beliefs.

And sure, the risks are lower for vegetarians but you’re still depriving a young child in your care of nutrition because of something you chose for yourself.

You seem to equate your diet with religion or some other deep rooted belief that you feel obligated to pass down. While the people who heard you were forcing this upon a child were thinking it’s more like choosing to smoke or drink heavily. Those two camps aren’t going to find common ground.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You seem to equate your diet with religion or some other deep rooted belief that you feel obligated to pass down.

If anything, passing down ethical beliefs about what is ok to consume and support with your money is more valid to pass down than 2000 year old fairy tales about who should be allowed to do what with their pee pee, not less.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One might argue your job is to do what’s best for the child despite your beliefs.

That's what I meant with pretend. What's best boils down to my beliefs, there is no objective criteria.

the risks are lower for vegetarians

No, there are simply no risks in not eating meat. There are risks in eating only potatos, but there's just as much in eating only bacon. The potential risks in vegetarian and carnivore diet come from not enough diversity. But take a "normal Western" diverse diet, strip out the meat, and you're perfectly fine in all macro- and micronutrients.

I'm not OP of this subthread btw. Nobody ever came at me for my children's diet. Which they honestly should, as we eat way to much pasta, but that's what's always accepted 😅

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Nobody ever came at me for my children's diet. Which they honestly should, as we eat way to much pasta, but that's what's always accepted 😅

That! Noone ever gets side eyed for taking their kids to McDonald's, which is the acme of malnutrition. But as soon as you don't serve meat to your kid every day, you get hassled by strangers. There are 35 million malnourished, mostly meat eating kids in the US, just by looking at the number of overweight children. But somehow the 1‰ of those who are vegan seem to be the issue.

Btw. I'm also not the OP of this thread, I'm not even vegan myself. But I get annoyed with these militant carnivores that pop up every time someone mentions veganism, just to spread FUD.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hmmm, no, it's the same as eating meat. You pass it down to your children, yes? it's the exact same, and it presents no health risks whatsoever. No animal products on the other hand (=veganism) has to be carefully controlled for protein and B12 intake. And then it also presents no risks. But it's definitely more of a balance

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You do not need to worry about protein at all. It’s impossible to design an amino acid deficient diet with enough calories.

B12 requirements and recycling also drop in vegans and there’s no evidence lower levels lead to negative outcomes.

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