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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 166 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (45 children)

Controversial take (though maybe not in this community):

If it's needed for survival, it should be free. No exceptions.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Not a viable take though. Housing, clothing, food.. none of them are free either. A more viable solution is to control the markets by setting limits, like they did here, and then provide a safety net for people so they will always be able to buy this stuff. It would be nice if it was free, but it's a long road to get there. Social politics can provide survival without abolishing stuff like money in the meanwhile.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some people feel like if you can't provide society with your labor, you should still be fed, clothed, and housed.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

IMO, people who don't work, still contribute to society: raising family, being friends with people, creating art, and so on.

Things that aren't easily measured by the dollar bill, but key to a good civilization.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

And arguably more important to the prevalence of human civilization. Otherwise, places like South Korea wouldn't be so worried about their shut-in youth population and declining birthrates while being currently at the top of the world's tech industry.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Not to otherwise disagree with you but I would argue that raising family is hard work

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think essentially everybody agrees, the debate is where to put the lines for "can't" and "needs"

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

I think you're giving people too much credit.

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