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This may be true, in the same way that most Americans agreed to get involved in WW2 after Pearl Harbour... Because they finally accepted that fascists could not be stopped from committing violence, promoting terrorism, continuing the propaganda to vilify and dehumanize their opponents, or implementing their dictatorship peacefully.
This is also propaganda, because conservatives answer is entirely dependent on whether or not conservatives are in control.
I hope it is true tbh, because it couldn't be more clear that the fascist party will continue escalating their own authoritarianism, terrorism, and violence, until they get it in response, so they can finally justify their goal of mass murder and military dictatorship.
I hope this doesn't come across as undermining, but considering how often I see the term "fascist" used to describe the people who are giving society a hard time, if I may ask, how does one actually define a fascist? What are the criteria (according to those who use the term today) where, if you fit the criteria, you're a fascist, and if you're not a fascist, it's because you don't fit the criteria?
As for violence, there are a lot of people who have been killed this year whose death everyone has been cheering but who doesn't have a history of violence (or even direct control over human life). I mean, when Kirk was assassinated, one of the people who got death threats in the aftermath was Joe Rogan. In terms of individuals on that side of the political spectrum, he's as mid as you can get.
This is apologist rhetoric, and since you are the OP, it is telling that you found this crap worth posting to start with.
You are not persuaded yet huh? And think Rogan is middle of the tent? He might be an idiot but he is squarely right wing you know, unless you know utter shit about politics. And you are watering down who is a fascist and who is not? You know Kirk had lists with targeted academics whom his fan-base harassed? Threatening academics for being woke is an anti-intellectual fascist tactic.
It really doesn't matter how you dress your world and gloss over reality, but there is a huge overlap between MAGA and authoritarian regimes worldwide, especially the Nazi party. People who don't see that it is mainly because they have zero idea about what the Nazi party was, except for "the absolute evil", and then pearl-clutch and say "they call me a nazi for being a militarist racist transphobe and because I believe in nationalism and traditional family values". Well, yeah? That was what a fucking nazi was, you pitiful ignoramus. What you nowadays call a "centrist".
Questioning whether "it is formally fascist" regarding the christian nationalist and organized racist forces behind this systematic attack on check and balances of the executive branch is simply SEALIONING.
Your own fucking intelligence service says so. What you are doing is really actionable, because if you are not simply a useful idiot, you are an active operative. As an added bonus, he poses with established nazi apologists among young Republicans. And you are STILL MOVING THE GOALPOSTS ABOUT WHAT A FASCIST IS THEORETICALLY?
If you don't see that already, there really isn't reason to waste time on you personally or any other regime apologist. You are the type of person who will tell us we are overreacting until there are actual gas chambers, and then claim it never happened. The more your side pushes in the direction of barbarism and inhumanity, the sooner this will be solved by the fourth box. Humanity has rejected your ideas with deadly force, and it will again. Case is closed.
No, it's just me asking where the boundaries are. As someone trying to understand the issue, is this not a good thing to ask?
Of what? Most people who put me on the spectrum would say I'm left-winged.
By "mid", I was using the slang term that means someone who is nowhere near as severe as the people on the same boat. I wasn't saying he wasn't "right winged".
No, I didn't know that. Would like to read more. That's immediately alarming.
I'm not sure why you think I'm denying this. I just prefer to address things deconstructively. It doesn't mean they're not what they are. It's not a matter of someone being a "pitiful ignoramus".
As I said, I don't take away from what I know they are. They are still what they are. It's not me asking for proof of anything they've done, if you think it's sealioning. Have you ever thought of how cultural it is to use the more indirect means of addressing someone?
I condemn him on those points. Out of habit, I just simply don't use the same words you use. I don't know why that's such a big deal. Also, it's bold of you to assume this relates to my intelligence service (or even country).
I don't support the regime. Never did I say Trump wasn't a fascist.
Or... maybe I just use different words. That's a huge jump to conclusions.
I won't respond to any of your shit. I don't block you just to keep tabs on you. kbye
Was anyone saying you had to?