1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
The “potentially responsible use case” for a training collar is training, fucking duh
So what is he training the dog to do?
Nobody here has presented any evidence yet for 4 continuous hours, I’ve seen a 56 second clip
The clip is the crux of the evidence. The time lapse is just to contextualise how much the dog has moved. Let's assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?
Having a dog stay in a bed or crate when they've been a pain in the ass is actually pretty common and I think you already know that, it's called time-out and it's also commonly used with small children and nobody with a working brain calls that abusive either
The clip does fuck all to even hint at abuse, the time lapse has multiple obvious cuts making any claim about the duration shown or the location of the dog for that duration entirely worthless, your commitment to pretending otherwise makes it extremely obvious that you don't actually care what the truth is and are just looking for an excuse to smear a streamer you don't like
It's funny how you're coming up with a barrage of excuses for every possible option, even ignoring Hasan's own statements. Why are you defending him from the claim that he used a shock collar if he literally said it's not a shock collar at all? If the sped up video is not proof that the dog was kept in one single place the entire time, why defend the idea that the dog was kept there for hours on end? If the dog wasn't forced to be there, why was Hasan angry at it for walking out?
You're really not interested in the truth yourself - you're not trying to explain the video itself, judging the likelihood of this and that explanation against each other, it's just about finding every explanation that excuses Hasan, no matter how nonsensical. That's also why you ignored my question (Let’s assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?) - you can't even theoretically imagine something that could convince you he did shock the dog.
Personally, I have a mild dislike for streamers in general (Hasan not particularly standing out among them), it's a weird and evidently socially unhealthy phenomenon, but in this case I'd probably forget about the situation within a day if I didn't see so much aggressive, vitriolic and gaslight-y defending of the guy from his fans.
is actually pretty common and I think you already know that, it’s called time-out and it’s also commonly used with small children and nobody with a working brain calls that abusive either
"Time out" for hours on end - that would veer into abusiveness.
Idk whether you're a phillip alt or just indistinguishably brain-poisoned and I don't particularly care, nothing presented here is evidence of animal abuse and your insistence on pretending otherwise is not helping your credibility. If you want normal people to accept the idea that Hasan is abusing his dog you're going to have to do better than a clip of it yipping once and a heavily edited time lapse of it laying down.
So what is he training the dog to do?
The clip is the crux of the evidence. The time lapse is just to contextualise how much the dog has moved. Let's assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?
Having a dog stay in a bed or crate when they've been a pain in the ass is actually pretty common and I think you already know that, it's called time-out and it's also commonly used with small children and nobody with a working brain calls that abusive either
The clip does fuck all to even hint at abuse, the time lapse has multiple obvious cuts making any claim about the duration shown or the location of the dog for that duration entirely worthless, your commitment to pretending otherwise makes it extremely obvious that you don't actually care what the truth is and are just looking for an excuse to smear a streamer you don't like
It's funny how you're coming up with a barrage of excuses for every possible option, even ignoring Hasan's own statements. Why are you defending him from the claim that he used a shock collar if he literally said it's not a shock collar at all? If the sped up video is not proof that the dog was kept in one single place the entire time, why defend the idea that the dog was kept there for hours on end? If the dog wasn't forced to be there, why was Hasan angry at it for walking out?
You're really not interested in the truth yourself - you're not trying to explain the video itself, judging the likelihood of this and that explanation against each other, it's just about finding every explanation that excuses Hasan, no matter how nonsensical. That's also why you ignored my question (Let’s assume that he did shock the dog, what evidence would you require beyond the clip?) - you can't even theoretically imagine something that could convince you he did shock the dog.
Personally, I have a mild dislike for streamers in general (Hasan not particularly standing out among them), it's a weird and evidently socially unhealthy phenomenon, but in this case I'd probably forget about the situation within a day if I didn't see so much aggressive, vitriolic and gaslight-y defending of the guy from his fans.
"Time out" for hours on end - that would veer into abusiveness.
Idk whether you're a phillip alt or just indistinguishably brain-poisoned and I don't particularly care, nothing presented here is evidence of animal abuse and your insistence on pretending otherwise is not helping your credibility. If you want normal people to accept the idea that Hasan is abusing his dog you're going to have to do better than a clip of it yipping once and a heavily edited time lapse of it laying down.