1 sure looks like him activating a shock collar because he doesn't want her allowed to do anything other than sit in one designated spot while he's doing his stream
Do you agree with the Hasan subreddit that she obviously caught her dew claw on the bed? Or did she maybe just bump her leg on the bed and that was what caused her to suddenly yelp in pain?
(Edit: Fuck me, I'm saying "bed" now. It's a weird little hard platform, it's clearly not a bed.)
From what I can see in this clip it's at least plausible that it was a dew claw or the dog equivalent of bashing your funny bone, I can't rule out the possibility that he's using a shock training collar of some kind, but there's absolutely nothing inherently abusive about those when used responsibly either. If it was a shock collar it was clearly not an extremely high output setting or for an unreasonable duration, not even close to evidence of animal abuse.
So, um, why is Hasan angry at the dog then? And why is he 100% unbothered by the dog clearly being in pain for one reason or another?
there’s absolutely nothing inherently abusive about those when used responsibly either
"It didn't happen, but if it did they deserved it anyway" ass excuse. What is this potentially responsible usage in this case? Forcing the dog to stay in the exact same spot for four hours of the stream because it's a cute prop?
What is this potentially responsible usage in this case?
It's part of the progression. You say something that sounds "defense adjacent," and is also true. The other option is to just attack the person speaking, or to attack the victim. Dealing with the facts at hand is right out.
Honestly, having watched some of Hasan's stream today, I kind of get where they pick it up from. He spent, no lie, about 40 minutes just talking continuously about how "they" are out to get him and "they" just think every bad thing about him and obviously he would never hurt his dog and she's super well trained, basically just doing everything possible to dodge or deflect the accusation, but always in this incredibly condescending tone of voice like what he is saying is obviously the truth and anyone who doesn't think so is stupid. He actually, to his credit, did address it head-on somewhat after those 40 minutes were up, but still in the most backwards ass way possible (search for "ants" to see my comment about some of the more batshit things he said).
Do you agree with the Hasan subreddit that she obviously caught her dew claw on the bed? Or did she maybe just bump her leg on the bed and that was what caused her to suddenly yelp in pain?
(Edit: Fuck me, I'm saying "bed" now. It's a weird little hard platform, it's clearly not a bed.)
From what I can see in this clip it's at least plausible that it was a dew claw or the dog equivalent of bashing your funny bone, I can't rule out the possibility that he's using a shock training collar of some kind, but there's absolutely nothing inherently abusive about those when used responsibly either. If it was a shock collar it was clearly not an extremely high output setting or for an unreasonable duration, not even close to evidence of animal abuse.
So, um, why is Hasan angry at the dog then? And why is he 100% unbothered by the dog clearly being in pain for one reason or another?
"It didn't happen, but if it did they deserved it anyway" ass excuse. What is this potentially responsible usage in this case? Forcing the dog to stay in the exact same spot for four hours of the stream because it's a cute prop?
It's part of the progression. You say something that sounds "defense adjacent," and is also true. The other option is to just attack the person speaking, or to attack the victim. Dealing with the facts at hand is right out.
Honestly, having watched some of Hasan's stream today, I kind of get where they pick it up from. He spent, no lie, about 40 minutes just talking continuously about how "they" are out to get him and "they" just think every bad thing about him and obviously he would never hurt his dog and she's super well trained, basically just doing everything possible to dodge or deflect the accusation, but always in this incredibly condescending tone of voice like what he is saying is obviously the truth and anyone who doesn't think so is stupid. He actually, to his credit, did address it head-on somewhat after those 40 minutes were up, but still in the most backwards ass way possible (search for "ants" to see my comment about some of the more batshit things he said).
You still have no evidence and less credibility than ever