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That's definitely an interesting response because I have spoken to several feminists that will say that they fundamentally agree and believe that all people should be treated equally by default and yet will also post things like "kill all men" or other things about how women should be given special treatment unironically.
It ends up at some level being hypocritical, and hypocrisy is intolerable from thought leaders.
Yeah, this sounds like a pretty common slander arguement, and certainly a use of hyperbole. You’ve seen some memes from some self proclaimed feminist accounts so all of the established feminist literature and established discourse means nothing.
And if you repeat it enough it magically becomes true. You don’t have to experience it first hand anymore because there’s a dozen accounts repeating it and they’ve all had the same exact first hand magical experience you did.
So, disregard women who are actually active in feminist circles and disregard academic critiques and established discourse. Your account and a dozen others repeating the same is clearly a better gauge. Not like bots and bad faith arguments aren’t running rampant.
It's not slander if it's true.
I mean, I get what you are saying, but I feel like you're overlooking my lived experience.
The discourse online is there are an enormous number of feminists who post "men are trash, etc." get hundreds and thousands of upvotes and reposts.
There are people who have made their entire career off of talking about how trash men are.
I don't like that.
Well, click bait “influencers” trying to ramp up engagement on platforms meant to feed off of controversial content probably isn’t the best place to formulate a legitimate opinion on feminism. Pointing at a handful of bad actors or even just hyperbolic venting on systemic issues or women who feel frustrated, upset and on the defensive isn’t “feminism” as a whole.
I would suggest you engage with more legitimate sources and literature before drawing your conclusions on what feminism is.
Clickbait man hating is not feminism anymore than incel pandering is masculinity.
PS — I don’t like that either (the mindless man hating I mean, preying on disillusioned, upset and vulnerable women.)
I agree with you but your reply misses my entire point. There is a group of people who trash talk all men under the guise of feminism and get a LOT of positive encouragement and support for it online.
That is not cool.