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And X11 will never be ready for most modern users. They have different goals. But that's the thing with open source. As long as someone somewhere needs it. Even if 90% of us don't need X11 for legacy software. It will still be here.
Most modern users don't care either way so long as it works.
X11 works for most users.
You completely missed the point being made.
Wayland is what new users start on. And Wayland works for most users. In fact, for these users, it works better than Xorg.
So nobody is going to switch to Xorg. The only people using it will be the few that have not switched to Wayland. And, as the applications go Wayland only, that will become a very short list.
It is mot Wayland that has to prove itself. X11 is not winning the battle for new users, or even old ones.
For most new users, sure, as they'll tend to use the most well-known distros. Wayland adoption is still not 100% and it very much depends on distro and DE.
If they never tried X they can't compare it, can they?
Only those that need features Wayland doesn't provide yet. Not most people, no.
Did i? Wayland is being touted as the next big thing when in fact it's not even ready yet. And this is after what? 15 years?
Most users don't care either way so long as it works.
Most users saw no reason to want to change.
Eventually it'll get there, let's hope so, but for now it reeks of systemd mentality.
Let's also hope when it's finally feature-matched to X that it won't be a mess like X is.