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"Fuck speed limits. I'm proud to break the law"

This sense of entitlement is insane.

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[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Are speed cameras really effective? There are multiple studies that looked at this.

And the answer is yes, they are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1963295/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3861844/

The car crashes that happen in Ontario cost society far more ressources (police, hospitals, nurses, medication, surgeries) that any of the money raised by speeding tickets.

Road narrowing is a great idea. It can be applied to local streets.

But the people who hate speed cameras are going to absolutely FREAK OUT if you suggest road narrowing as a potential solution.

[–] Two2Tango@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Nah, I'm someone who hates speed cameras and I'd welcome some narrowing or weaving roads. Lowering the speed on a 60km to 40 km and sticking a speed camera on it makes everyone feel like they're being micromanaged by some new incompetent manager. If they want to lower speed limits, change the design of the road to match.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

If you cant reduce your speed from 60 to 40, you are the one that is incompetent.

It costs millions to redesign and refurbish 1 road while it costs thousands to operate the cameras. We should be working towards building safer roads but ill take enforcement in the meantime, lives are literally at risk if we let speeds remain high on our city streets.

Even if every paving company in ontario worked for free year round we could not bring every unsafe, needlessly wide road to a better standard within a year. Nearly every major road in every city and town would need to be redesigned and repaved.

[–] Two2Tango@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In my city pedestrians are being hit at roundabouts, not on straight 4 lane roads with great visibility on both sides.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A pedestrian was killed about 1 month before a camera was put in place on a straight 4 lane road with good visibility on both sides in my city.

[–] Two2Tango@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

It sucks, and without knowing the circumstances I'd at least partially blame the driver. Someone driving 60km and paying attention should never hit a pedestrian. People should be driving to suit the conditions of the road, and if a person is hanging out near the side of the road cars should reduce their speed. But unfortunately common sense is lacking in some individuals, and I have no good solution for that. At least in your case they implemented the change as a reaction to a real problem.

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