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Other example would be "all men have penis". Accusing someone for "faking their identity".

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I have no idea what any of this is trying to convey.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I translate:

be a biologist
research clovers
everyone says "clovers have 3 leaves"
its a law of nature
go outside
find 4-leaf clover
i better take it to court for violating laws of nature

This is obviously stupid. Discovering something that violates a descriptive 'law' means the law was wrong. And yet, people do this in conversation all the time.

Sometimes casual conversation begins with a "But". E.g., someone might say "But anyway, have you seen that new movie Oppenheimer?"

Grammar nazis react to this by saying "You can't say 'but' at the start of a sentence if that sentence isn't a rebuttal of the previous sentence! It's a law of english!"

'Laws' of english are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive. But alas, we live in a society 😔

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have no idea what any of this is trying to convey.

[–] jak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

That grammar evolves naturally, like species do, so any rules we find for the categorization of either should reflect reality, not try to dictate it.

For example, I just started that bit with a clause, which means it’s a fragment, not a sentence. I still put a period at the end of it and started it without any lead in, which is “wrong,” but it’s more that the rule is wrong, because what I wrote plays the role of a sentence in this case.

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