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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 31 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I get why vibe coders love Rust - it’s a lot harder to shoot yourself in the foot if rustc is checking your lifetimes, but holy shit is the code I’ve seen from them the most unholy mess. Rust is difficult enough to read at the best of times but LLMs don’t even bother with any kind of module structure. Just thousands of lines of vomit in single files and a worrying amount of unsafe.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Preamble: I am a huge LLM/codegen skeptic, for a litany of reasons.

With that said, this honestly sounds like whoever did the prompting didn’t include something like this in the prompt, along with nuanced adversarial review loops:

unsafe blocks are strongly discouraged, and must be specifically justified, and survive antagonistic review by a rust language specialist agent and software security specialist agent. Part of the intent of this reimplementation is to leverage the strengths of the rust language itself, and rampant unsafe usage directly contradicts that.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Sure, but adding adversarial loops, or, some complex addition to every prompt would increase the token usage massively, thus the cost.

So, why bother with that?

I could very well be wrong, but all indications I’ve seen have been that that the cost of the tokens needed to get something even vaguely acceptable is greater than the cost of just hiring someone, or a group, to do the job. Unless something needs to be done fast due to an immediate concern, and the cost is no object.

[–] bumblebeer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps they run a local model, then tokens are essentially free.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would need a very beefy cluster, and that definitely isn’t free.

[–] bumblebeer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well yes, I'm not saying it's a free lunch. The point is a large up-front investment buys you unlimited tokens in perpetuity for no more than the cost of electricity to power the cluster — which can be surprisingly cheap for UMA machines.

I've swapped off API models entirely and have been able to do a lot more useful work since I don't have to worry about token cost or usage limits. Granted it's slower per task (less tk/s), but overall much more productive, and private.

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