this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2026
236 points (98.0% liked)

homeassistant

20060 readers
108 users here now

Home Assistant is open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first.
Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts.

Home Assistant can be self-installed on ProxMox, Raspberry Pi, or even purchased pre-installed: Home Assistant: Installation

Discussion of Home-Assistant adjacent topics is absolutely fine, within reason.
If you're not sure, DM @GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] hanke@feddit.nu 21 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Very cool!

The voice sattelites like this and the Home Assistant voice from a year back are great and I love seeing more options for self hosted fully local devices like this.

But honestly, what I find is missing for a fully local smart home setup is a "brain" for running the assistant LLM in a simple way.

There is plenty of cloud solutions for connecting AI, but true local hosting requires a rig with a proper GPU if you want timely responses. I wonder if it is possible to build a purpose built "brain box" for Home Assistant that is small, not too expensive, fully local.

It just sucks needing a rig with a RTX 3090 or whatever to get the full chain to run fully local. Small LLMs are stupid as dirt and our Home Assistant Green is in no way equipped to handle any form of LLM. I managed to get my gaming rig to host an LLM that was good enough, but I don't want my gaming rig to be always on, and if I start gaming on it, the GPU has to deallocate all LLM business.

I love fully local stuff, but the LLM part seems very expensive. Even for such a simple thing as managing our lights and music.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I love fully local stuff, but the LLM part seems very expensive. Even for such a simple thing as managing our lights and music.

So, the simple things should just be voice command (not recognition, limited vocabulary), kitchen light on, what's todays weather (assuming you automatically download it and have it there, needs TTS like whisper). That can run on a recent potato. Somewhat more complex things need full voice recognition e.g. Play me x songname by y artist. Laptop CPU should handle that fine. You'll only need a full LLM for more general inquiries, e.g. What mess has Trump made today?, which will need web access seeing as small LLMs don't have a lot of world knowledge (although you can self host Wikipedia and point it at that).

If you have a desktop computer and a GPU with 16+GB VRAM (or even smaller using RAM and a MoE LLM) that'll do the job with reasonable smarts e.g. Qwen 3.6 35BA3B, Gemma 4 12B or 26BA4B. You may have to wait a minute or two. Mine pulls around 55W at idle (7800XT) and does double duty as a NAS and gaming rig, or you can have it sleep most of the time and let the laptop wake it up when necessary.

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“how much is using local LLMs for trivial things raising world wide energy usage and causing a RAM shortage?”

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty fucking low since it's the gigantic datacenter buildout thats actually doing it. Dumbass

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guess what the speaker is using to parse what you said. Dumbass.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do you know what a local model is? Because that's literally what you said...

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (17 replies)