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This is my own personal opinion, which is why this is staying up. But when has a revolution worked in the last 20 years?
Hey, let's fix the old one.
I think light revolutions work. Stuff like what France does where they riot and start burning cars when the government tries to raise the retirement age. The kind of stuff that reminds the politicians that they could be dragged out into the streets by an angry mob, but that hasn't happened yet.
Actual revolutions where you do need to go that far, mostly fail as you said. Additionally, foreign meddling is common, so even if you can deal with everything else, outside actors are going to try to screw with you. And they'll typically succeed.
Without any sort of violence at all, you become a non-threat and we get what we currently have in America today. No one cares about the protests because they aren't going to do anything at all to the people they most need to affect.
Basically you need a sweet spot of minor levels of violence without fully going full revolution or being neutered into irrelevancy since they know you'll never fight back.
The government did raise the retirement age.
Granted, the riots have made this an attractive talking point for candidates for the coming presidential election, but that's about it.
Such riots may look amazingly violent to an outsider, but as a frenchman I don't think we'll get anything nice without going MUCH further than a day of planned (with the police), organised chaos in a designated street of Paris.