tekdeb

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[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not the one you're asking, but I'm in a similar situation. I've attemped to get this working and the problem is that their Windows client must be downloaded and installed through the Microsoft Store and it's packaged in a way you can't run in standalone after extracting it. Some apps published through the MS Store do work fine this way, but I could not get it working for the Apple Music client.

Apple Music does have a web player, but it is also limited to lossy streaming like alternative clients like Cider is.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So.. Mostly good results actually. I tested the default profiles from the manufacturer and they seem ok. They are not as good as my custom ones on Windows for a couple of different reasons, but they are good enough to make me no longer see it as a major issue. Thanks again for the suggestion!

I also doublechecked the ArchWiki and according to that, ICC profiles are supposed to be cross-platform compatible and that profiling on Windows or MacOS and transferring the files over is a solution. But I've also read the opposite somewhere and my own profiles from Windows do not look great on Linux for whatever reason. So it seems that my own profiles from Windows are somehow not compatible, but ICC profiles fundamentally can be and that the manufacturer's profiles are in this case.

Personally I wouldn't mind having to profile/calibrate on Windows every now and then because I expect to keep it around on a separate drive for a long time yet for those use cases Linux don't meet my requirements, but sadly I did not get good results that way. Maybe I'll try different profiling software later and see if it's a problem with the Calibrite software.

For anyone having the same issues as me and finds this thread later: I would recommend dual-booting and profiling on Windows and testing those first. If they work well for you, great, else you can compromise a little and use the manufacturer's profiles if they are available and decently made. Hopefully it's not too long until we get a good native solution, but for now there doesn't seem to be any.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love some more details as well about why they found it so difficult. I tried it myself just now without really knowing how to, and it was pretty easy. You either find the option by searching, or go to Settings -> Accounts -> Other Users -> Add account.

They do try getting you to add a Microsoft account first and you have to choose "I don't have this person's sign-in information" and "Add a user without a Microsoft account" which is the only other option than Cancel at that point to continue, then you set the username and password and you're done. To be clear, it would be better if they immediately gave you a clear option between local user and Microsoft account, but I would hardly call it selling your soul and whatnot.

But Microsoft for sure deserve most of the complaints they're getting and it's only getting worse.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I didn't think of the "premade" profiles actually, thanks for the suggestion. Using the manufacturers own profiles typically aren't ideal as each display can be a little different even if they are the exact same model and they change a bit over time, but maybe that's the best I can get for now.

I expect them to have been created on Windows like I did with my own and as such will have the same problem because Linux and Windows color management are fundamentally quite different, but it is certainly worth a try. I will test that a bit later. It could never match custom profiles, but it could possibly be good enough.

 

Being in the process of switching over to Linux from Windows, I've found most things work incredibly well and the things that don't mostly have native alternatives or runs well through something like Proton, Lutris or Bottles. But the one thing that is currently making me keep Windows around and regularly using it is color management and monitor profiling software, and I would really appreciate any suggestions.

This is, in my case, about KDE Plasma on CachyOS/Arch with an Nvidia GPU and I've spent some time trying to figure it out since the Wayland color management/HDR protocol was finalized some months ago, but have not had much luck. Plasma seems to have decent support for using ICC profiles in newer versions, but creating them in the first place is a challenge. I've tried a few things, but none of them give good results. First off I've tried running DisplayCAL as you normally would, and while it connects to my calibrator (X-Rite i1 Display Pro Plus) and gets through most of the process it fails at the very end before it would normally ask you to save and install the profile. It still makes an .icc-file you can find somewhere in the application data folders (I don't remember the path at the moment), but using them gives obviously incorrect colors like the main color of the ArchWiki background being much redder than it should be. I also tried following the guide Xaver/Zamundaaa wrote a little over a year ago about exactly this, but that fails to start profiling at all. Lastly I've tried profiling on Windows and copying the ICC files over and using them as-is which also gives incorrect colors, as you would expect. I would've loved to use the vendor's first party profiling software (calibrite Profiler), but they only support Windows and MacOS.

As I understand it, ArgyllCMS (with DisplayCAL as its GUI), was typically the recommended solution for this, but they do not support Wayland and according to ArgyllCMS (see the explanation under "Display color management and Wayland" on their website) "there is little immediate prospect of ArgyllCMS being able to natively support display calibration and profiling for Wayland" due to various issues working with the Wayland devs and lacking protocols.

Is Linux/Wayland simply not ready for this use case yet? Are there alternatives to ArgyllCMS/DisplayCAL that does support profiling on Wayland? Is it an Nvidia-related issue as it often seems to be?

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation. Qobuz has lots if things I would appreciate, but the last time I tried it it was missing a lot of the music I regularly listen to. It has only been a few months since then, but I will give it another try to see if it has changed.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

True, which is why I don't think Deezer is a perfect choice for me either, but at the surface level 41.4% US-owned is better than closer to 100% which all the other services are that meets my requirements. Personally I found that number on the Deezer Wikipedia page, but it is marked with "citation needed", so it could be completely wrong. And that probably is the case if it's true that Access bought exclusive control.

"The US that you hate" doesn't exist. I disagree with a lot of decisions and policies and want better for the American people and the rest of the world that is both directly and indirectly affected, but there's no hate. But you do make an important point that I hadn't thought deeply enough about and I agree with you. I believe it's better to support something that’s simply based in the US rather than the specific policies I disagree with even if it's more money.

Qobuz would be my choice as it would avoid this dilemma, but their catalogue wasn't good enough for me the last time I tried it. I'll have to try again to see if it has gotten better since then. But I have changed my mind and will cancel my Deezer subscription regardless and try to find an alternative. Or maybe I'll just drop streaming services completely for now as most of my active listening is done with my own local collection anyways and I could always set up a Jellyfin instance if needed.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm quickly running out of options.. Apple Music was honestly really decent, then the US did their thing so I looked for non-US options. One of my requirements is lossless quality, so Spotify is out (regardless of their own ethical issues). Tidal is also out as it has been a US-owned service for a long time. The remaining options are Deezer and Qobuz. Qobuz seems good in terms of ownership and whatnot, but their catalogue is missing things I listen to quite often, or at least it did when I last checked it out a few months ago. I think I'm staying with Deezer for now. It's not ideal as Access Industries own 41.4% of Deezer whose owner this post is all about, but it's the least bad of all the options I've found. They also don't have every song I'm interested in, but they're pretty close.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think both Bazzite and CachyOS are solid recommendations, but only Bazzite is immutable out of those two.

[–] tekdeb@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

I would recommend Mint over PopOS if that ends up being the choice, but Bazzite is probably the safest choice here. Both Cinnamon and Plasma should be pretty easy to navigate for someone used to Windows. Nobara is great, but personally I would stay away from distros with so few maintainers (only GE?). GE is an amazing dev and has done some great things for gaming on linux, but the chance of having to switch distros sooner or later is fairly large. If you don't mind helping them with that, then I don't think you can go wrong with Nobara either. Personally I currently run CachyOS with KDE Plasma and it's been super solid for my use case including gaming, but I would not recommend any Arch-based distros to "the kind of person who needs help if their TV is set to the wrong input" even if it is quite beginner friendly and stable. But I also keep Windows around on a separate drive regardless for the times when Linux isn't the right tool for the job, most notably because a lot of competitive games do not run on linux as they require kernel level anti-cheat (https://areweanticheatyet.com/). If the person you are referring to have no interest in those kinds of games, then that becomes a non-issue, but if their favourite game is something like Valorant or Fortnite then Linux simply isn't a good choice for them yet. That is also true for some Windows-exclusive applications. Most applications have good alternatives or can run fine through something like Bottles or Lutris, but some don't.

Otherwise, most games typically work fine (https://protondb.com/). Some work flawlessly without having to do anything. Some only require minor tweaks like setting a launch parameter or selecting a specific proton version. Those I believe would be acceptable, if not perhaps a little frustrating for such a person, but there are also a lot of games that run but can have issues of varying degrees that you can't do anything about. They are almost always good enough, but sometimes those issues can be significant. What I suspect would be a killer is that some games may stop working after an update which requires further tweaking or simply staying broken until either the game devs or proton devs fixes it.