As a counter question, would you be willing to drop an atom bomb on Tel Aviv? Because realistically speaking, that’s the minimum you’d need to do to eradicate Israel. Yes or no?
LoneWolf_McQuade
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You want a yes/no answer to the one of the most complicated current issues?
There was a UN resolution declaring they have a right to exist so de facto yes.
There is also the fact that they do exist, and I don’t see them getting thrown out. You would need something like what Putin does to Ukraine but even more aggressive. You would need a proper genocide of the Israeli people because they would never leave willingly .
Does the US have a right to exist? Does Australia? Did any nation come about in a peaceful manner? Does Turkey have a right to exist given the situation with Kurds?
What is more constructive would be in discussing what shape Israel should take, how it better should respect other ethnicities, neighbours and their needs, and the forming of a Palestinian state for the Palestinian people.
To have as goal to eradicate Israel is just not on the table for a multitude of reasons not the least since it is just propagating endless bloodshed on both sides
We can discuss the root cause of Israel causing targets to be set on innocent Jews (even if these actions that took place on Bondi Beach can never ever be justified).
But what I’m frankly seeing and it really disturbs me, is that pro-Palestinians here and on Reddit shifts the blame on Isreal in a different way. They call it psy-ops or false flag operation by Jews/Israel with no evidence whatsoever. I even got banned from their subreddit when I tried to push back against that narrative. That is honestly antisemitism in its purest form and not the type of discussion that should be had
I don’t defend Israel, I defend the right of civilians, including Jews, far away from being part of any conflict to live in peace and not getting killed by terrorists.
To paint Jews as responsible for everything from 9/11 to this is old antisemitic nonsense that has been around for centuries. Especially since “Globalise the intifada” has become a slogan it is not surprising that these attacks happen. At least take responsibility for when it inevitably does happen.
Also recall when in Australia there were people shouting “Gas the Jews” just days after the Hamas attack, were those false flag agents as well?
Ah just as I thought. Not a single concrete evidence connected to the actual deed/attackers. If it was a court case and you came with these very loose allegations you’d be laughed at.
Ask yourself if you could be brainwashed if you are explaining away every attack on Jews with grand conspiracies. There is help out there
Or just apply Occam’s razor…
Rightfully? Why should someone be forced to accept the narrative that Bondi Beach was a false flag operation?? Why should that not be allowed to be questioned as I’ve seen zero evidence for that
“free speech for me but not for thee”
Funny, I got perma banned from a few subreddits when criticising the Palestine movement for pushing the narrative that the Bondi Beach attack was a false flag operation by Jews/Israel
Reddit makes profit in part from selling user generated content (posts/comments) to AI companies for training so you are absolutely right.
That was one reason to me, in addition that I got banned from many subreddits from just comments that goes against the narrative of the subreddit, it kills any interesting discussion when it just becomes silos where everyone has to basically agree
Wow what a slam dunk come back /s