Electricd

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[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago

Explain yourself

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is misery really the only factor? I know a lot of people who are doing well or really well that are complete assholes and steal shit

Stealing for necessities is really rare. People are just selfish assholes

Non-capitalism doesn't magically make people rich. Don't know what you're thinking. If anything, you consume less

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You just said a transphobic thing, though. It’s in the quote I used. That thing you said is transphobic, ergo you have a history of saying transphobic things.

Again, you're just assuming bad intention. So I guess I must do the same with you? What if my question is legitimate? How can you know I'm just trying to piss of people? You're just persuading people that I'm acting in bad faith, and I'm not.

Still can't see any quote. What exactly is transphobic?

but there’s no obligation for the community to educate you just so you’ll feel included

Just a sign of a bad community, but you do you. You're free not to interact.

Just like I’m not interested in litigating the details of why ‘asserting that you would consider a hetero relationship containing a trans person to be a gay relationship’ is transphobic.

Then, can you really blame me for calling this out because I believe it's not transphobic and you're just censoring people and bullshitting?

It’s not an unfair assumption to assume that what someone tells you they believe is, in fact, what they believe. You have expressed transphobic views, so since the only information I have with which to judge you is based on what you’ve expressed, I can safely take you at your word that you at very least hold the transphobic opinion you have said you hold.

So believing a person is homosexual if they like trans people with the opposite gender but same sex is transphobic? I think we can stop now, there's no point in arguing. You just have a vastly different definition of transphobia from mine. I thought it was the hate or discrimination of trans people.

This is just fucking dumb and depressing. You're creating enemies that aren't there. Congrats.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Can't the same be said for the usual suspects like lemmygrad, hexbear, .ml...?

Lemmy is meant to be used to discuss with people. When you try to enforce your rules outside, you go too far.

I still don't think it's a great instance to point people to. Not with an admin actively silencing 'opponents', defaming and spreading misinformation

Your defense is basically "it's meant to be authoritarian"

And just like a lesbian bar, if you bother the clientele or staff, you can and will be thrown out.

A bar is not a forum. Lemmy's goal is to discuss and share things. If only a specific point of view is allowed, it ceases to be a "safe place" and becomes a circlejerk. Like it if you want, I find it dumb and will never recommend biased or opinionated instances if they don't allow other opinions.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well yea, if you don’t want to debate, don’t. Don’t falsely claim the person is transphobic if you don’t know. Don’t censor the message. If you do, don’t be surprised that I call you authoritarian and full of shit

you have a history of expressing transphobic opinions regardless of your internal motivation. It seems pretty straightforward what happened here.

You invested an history of things I haven’t done. If you believe what I have said is transphobic, then you have a problem and are actively engaging in defamatory speech. You keep assuming stuff about me which I partly what I’m calling out

Sadly, safe spaces often turns out to be safe for some people, and xenophobic of other people. Authoritarian people thrive there and confirmation bias is king

Not being able to discuss in a community focused on this subject is really sad. I would never recommend an instance or community where only a single opinion is allowed

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can’t just assume things. From my research, there is no forced labor. Prisoners work to gain benefits

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It doesn’t state that this is a punishment that can happen when refusing to work

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I completely forgot this was a thing

Still a way not to die I guess?

What happens if the prisoner refuses to work?

It seems like they get less privileges, not specifically punished

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Inherently transphobic? You’re just assuming and extrapolating

Don’t assume it’s malicious, they might just not know. Aren’t we here to discuss? Being wrong doesn’t mean I should be banned, but I should be corrected. Closing debates when I’m respectful isn’t useful to anyone

I just like to question things, not take and accept them just because the person is concerned by the topic, especially if they have a sensibility or opinion on the subject

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago

What prevents me from working a few months, getting enough money for a computer and internet, and then have food and housing for free and don't work for the rest of my life?

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

and if you're not doing good then there's always the "go to jail" route: free housing and food, at the cost of your freedom

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

how would that be different without capitalism?

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