Shouldn't strait times sort out their Hormuz situation first before lecturing us?
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s/billionaires with private jets/suppression of emancipatory technologies/
Maybe, if you're only talking about individual people, but the big polluters are corporations, not people. That's where the focus should be.
Only if you ignore all the stuff people consume. If a corporation pollutes and you buy their stuff, you’re on the hook for that pollution. We all are. We should be buying stuff that doesn’t pollute, and finding ways to save energy, water, and packaging.
Ok, that's an excellent sentiment, but utterly worthless in the real world. People will buy what is available and what is cheap. A handful of people choosing to be conscious with what they purchase is a drop in the bucket compared to what the masses will do.
I get it. Convincing the people to not buy stuff that pollutes should be the easy route, but it's not. And unfortunately we don't live in the world of "it should be this way", we live in reality. And in reality, the only real way to stop pollution heavy products from being sold is to go after the companies making them directly. Boycotts alone will not work because, again, as long as the products are available and cheap, people will buy them; morals be damned.
Not always. I've always tried to buy what is better for the planet, even if that costs a bit more. Or will repair stuff instead of toss and buy.
Unfortunately, convincing corporations to not pollute isn’t any easier. Using the tools of government to regulate them even harder still. It all comes down to people and what they want. Try to circumvent them and they’ll fight back.
Just look at what’s happening right now. Trump is rolling back tons of environmental and agricultural (anti- animal cruelty) regulations all the time. What activists had counted as previous wins are now going away.
Oh bullshit. Governance can absolutely compel industry to reform.
Yeah, copy the bug corporate agenda: blame the consumers. Shift the blame onto them, so you won't be held accountable for producing most pollution. Consumer pollution is just a tiny fraction compared to corporate and government pollution.
It doesn't have to. Don't flood the field, fight the weeds manually and grow your own rice...
Also I would love to know emissions from corn including the stupid use as fuel. We could also stop ocean floor dredging today if we wanted to and that would reduce CO2 emissions by the amount of the entire aviation industry. Its a stupid practice the destroys eco systems anyway.
There's actually a really interesting story here. Rice production, in addition to deforestation, has been linked to starting global warming about 5000 years ago. While the climate should have been naturally cooling due to decreased insolation, the methane released from the start of intensive rice agriculture and the CO2 from deforestation prevented this. Here's a summary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_anthropocene
P.S. fuck capitalists
Humanity's collective influence on global ecology has been detectable for thousands of years, but so have most species. I think there's a big difference between "We can tell that this species was here because it left an ecological marker" and "This species caused a major global die-off". It's the difference between an ecofascist "fuck humanity" and a communist "fuck capitalism". Not to imply you don't already consider that, just sayin for those reading who didn't.
On an inverse note, there's a fairly accepted theory that Europe's "Little Ice Age" was caused by the disease pandemics that wiped out 90% North America's population after first contact. In the centuries subsequent Columbus, an estimated 10% of the world's population succumbed to disease apocalypse and left previously-managed areas the combined size of France untended to regrow, lowering global CO2 enough to cause a several-hundred year cold snap and geopolitical knock-on effects across the world.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921818125003479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
https://allthatsinteresting.com/what-caused-the-little-ice-age
The article just says that it was due to the rise of agriculture, not rice in particular.
Edit: and fuck capitalists
Yes like agriculture uses resources, resources need to be responsibly managed, not responsibly managing said resources either because we were 5,000 years ago and didn’t know better or if it’s now and we do know better we just aren’t willing to pay for it is what causes climate change not things just existing
I kind of think we should first address the things that have changed the climate in the couple centuries since they were invented, and then tackle the stuff that took 5000 years.
This but unironically.
Every environmental activist out there who spends their afternoons shaming people online for going about their most mundane, domestic activities ("how dare you use a hot cycle for your single load of laundry!?") are actively complicit in enabling and normalizing billionaires' continued ravaging of the earth's resources. It keeps everyone distracted from the actual problem and trapped in an "us vs them" mentality where the public can never collectively unite to turn the heat around on those in power.
I'm not cutting my decompression-after-surviving-another-day-in-dystopia shower short while Musk installs another infinity pool in his Arizona summer home lol, so stop asking.
Eating two pounds of bacon fried beef on an asbestos bun is gonna kill you but there's no point putting it down if you're holding the elephants foot in your other hand put the one down or the other cannot kill you fast enough to matter.
Ever since data centers have begun consuming staggering amounts of water and electricity while providing unprecedented amounts of pollution/toxic waste/noise/more, I've really given up feeling responsibility for making the world better/cleaner. I'm not going to change my behaviors--I'll still recycle and be careful about energy/water consumption, but the advent of the data center threw a similar "fuck you" as when i discovered how little the recycling of plastic bottles actually makes any impact (and that we were basically sold a glaring lie + promise by major bottlers like coke and pepsi)
"We won't be fooled again" 🥴
Plastic recycling is actually picking up as the economics make more sense.
But its still better to use/buy things in more recyclable containers...
If we can ever get rid of the capitalists, we could switch to compostable containers for most or many goods. They've already been invented; they're just not seen as profitable to implement on a wide scale.
That's what really sucks about getting an education is being exposed to all the alternatives that have been created over the decades in many fields but we're just kinda put on the shelf because the capitalists said "but what about number go up?"
There is so much shit we could change and have everyone be better off for it yet we don't cause it won't make number don't go up.
Remember, the 'carbon footprint' metric was invented by British Petroleum's PR team.
And while you're at it, remember that BP was formerly named the Anglo Persian Oil Company, which held a commercial monopoly on the oil extraction of Iran. It was majority owned by the british government and served to funnel the oil wealth back to London. When Iran's then democratically elected government wanted to nationalize the company, the UK and US fomented a coup in 1953 and installed a constitutional monarchy with a dictator Shah that would ally with the west. That's why they have F-4 tomcats, and fun fact, he was the one who commissioned mercedes to create the G-Wagon. Eventually resentment against the government would lead to the Iranian revolution in 1979 and the hostage crisis which would create the conditions that lead to today.
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Humans existing is bad for the environment, I propose we let more of the poors die.
This reminds me of he time I got arrested for peeing in the lake right next to the chemical company dumping waste in via a 26 inch Dia. Pipe.
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Haha I'm killing the planet cause I can only afford to eat brown rice with beans. It's not even the CO2, it's the gigantic turds I'm dropping in the bowl #fibermaxxing
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