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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

War on Drivers

Dogshit title.

Its a war on the automotive industry and their planet killing infrastructure that's forced millions of Americans to own cars they can't even afford to get to jobs late that don't even adequately compensate them.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 hour ago

Oh yes, that planet-killing infrastructure that allows your groceries to be delivered to your store.

Let me guess, your ideal future for humanity is ultra-densified condo towers with thousands of identical 250 sqft cubicles so we can all huddle together and bike to service jobs that don't even let you see a lawn for the rest of your life?

Would it also include 10+ billion people by 2050 Mr Planet Killer?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One of the many stupid things about it is that generally speaking, most measures to reduce cars have the effect of making car travel more pleasant. It's building tons of extra lanes that drives its own demand and makes driving slow and unpleasant.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

You need to remember that the groups that push for this pro-car culture don’t represent the drivers, but the manufacturers.

They don’t care about the actual experience of driving - they only want to shit out as many new vehicles onto the road as possible.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

it is funny because the editor of the article think this title is negative, while the one who voted for him are most likely looking at the title and saying "that is who I voted for"

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

NY Post is a Trump loving rag. Please don't give them clicks.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Goodness, this article was a pain to read. Every single point raised is easily refutable but there's one particular paragraph I wanted to pick apart:

Among the plan’s more than 80 demands is a bizarre proposal to build playgrounds smack in the middle of city streets that would then be redesigned into cul-de-sacs — a move the group claims will solve the city’s “playground desert problem.”

Imagine calling a plan to build more playgrounds - something that would provide a long-term benefit for children- "bizarre" just because it just might remove some streets? I don't want come off as employing the overused "think of the children" argument since it's used to justify censorship but children do, in fact, have a right to clean spaces with breathable, unpolluted air.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

it is funny how low they are willing to go, not even journalistic integrity is stopping them anymore. should have the name of the writer out there and his twitter account so they can be shamed on public. If this is an actual person and not fake name or AI.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 7 points 3 hours ago

This COMMUNIST thinks building PLAYGROUNDS will solve the LACK OF PLAYGROUNDS?! Gadzooks, what fooferaw! Communists are so silly! Let the free market provide playgrounds.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 hours ago

Why are we posting Murdock owned rags?

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 3 hours ago

I see your point, but nypost is not a reliable source. Please repost with a link that's credible

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't cars notoriously evil in NYC?

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yeah. I love how Murderdoch is eating his hat.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

New York is going to get the same media coverage as Paris did. Paris got so much better in the last 15 years it’s absolutely crazy.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Really? How so? I've wanted to visit for decades; I haven't been scared, just poor 😅

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Paris did the same thing Mamdani wants to do in NYC: Turn roads into green spaces and pedestrian paths/bikeways and make it much easier to get around without a car. While the people there were at first unsure about it and complained, they've been really happy with it now that it's proven itself to be beneficial. The air is cleaner, and the streets are safer and far less congested. It's totally transformed Paris.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

That sounds great. I'm really happy for Paris!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago

Good news: its going to become much more affordable soon. Rent freezes, free busses, $30 minimum wage..

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

This is awesome. I hope he comes up with real solutions other cities can adopt to curb car creep into cities. My city is fairly progressive and I can promise city hall is watching what he does very closely.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The first time I went to NYC, car traffic was still allowed on Broadway between 46th and 47th in Times Square. Closing it off gave all these tourists somewhere to go and made crossing the street so much safer. It’s crazy to me that so much real estate was ceded to making the area 5% more convenient for drivers when the land was so much better used for pedestrians. NYC is already so walkable but I’d love to see it even less congested. No reason not to use the bus.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Ban cars throughout the entire city. Delivery vehicles at night time only. Let the rich return to the ancient ways. To separate themselves from the rabble, they'll be carried around in sedan chairs like the rich fat bastards of yore.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 90 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Opening lines of the article:

Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani could make driving in the Big Apple hell on wheels

Oh fucking please. NYC has always been a shit-show to drive in. If they would improve the mass transit options, i would never choose to drive in.

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 49 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Media is just the mouthpiece for the rich and it shows.

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 20 points 11 hours ago

Well the NYPost is literally owned by Rupert Murdoch. (Trump’s billionaire buddy who owns Fox News and half the Australian media).

So this is par for the course I’m afraid.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

That New York Post article is a hate-filled piece of garbage.

For example, it hates against these "polarizing rat-riddled street dining shacks" (quote is from the article).

I can guarantee you, i live in Vienna, we have these things all over the place. There's at least 5 of them on my way from where i live to university. There's never been any problems with them. In fact, they're delicious and typically much cheaper than sit-in restaurants. That's probably because they don't have to pay for expensive rooms. That makes the food much cheaper, it's typically around 5€ for a kebab (basically a sandwich) compared to 12€ for anything you get at a sit-in restaurant. I have gone to these street dining shacks every day for years and never had problems.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I would take these over franchises any day!

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 hours ago

Is that picture real? It looks like it should be a KenM post, talking about the very normal-looking restaurant shack instead of the prominent pile of un-binned garbage.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

It would be better to give the businesses and landlords some certainty and allow them to be built as a permanent structure. Add better trash holding infrastructure while they are at it.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Nah, these are part of whatever restaurant is across the sidewalk. That does sound nice, but hasn't been my experience with them. I haven't eaten at all of them though, that's for sure.

[–] marmaraunimezunu@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Zohran Mamdani seems like an actually good person. I hope I don't regret saying this.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago

How many politicians can you name that went on a hunger strike for over 1 week, to be in solidarity with poor people?

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 22 points 19 hours ago

Ah the New York Post... hate filled right wing rag.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 29 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Bikelash

the negative and outsized reaction of car culture to change

  1. Denial - "We will never be Amsterdam"
  2. Anger - comes in many forms, from demonization of cyclists as reckless to TV hosts yelling at a mayor <-- this story is here
  3. Bargaining - resort to last-ditch efforts, e.g. lawsuits
  4. Depression - self explanatory
  5. Acceptance - people appear out of nowhere and start biking to school, work, wherever

Source:

Life After Cars by Sarah Goodyear, Doug Gordon, and Aaron Naparstek

https://www.lifeaftercars.com/

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Solution: become a Bikeshevik.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I fully support the pedal and saddle!

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

car-hating activist

Oh boy, here we go. 🤣

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