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[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see Israel adhering to this, they've violated every single one thus far

They'll probably wait until the hostages are exchanged and return to annihilation

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

They'll probably wait until the hostages are exchanged and return to annihilation

Probably won't even wait that long.

While the broader population seem to genuinely consider the hostages extremely important, the decision makers in the government don't care about them except as a convenient excuse for doing what they've always wanted to do.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

So when is the food coming into Gaza?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

israel is going to renege on the deal, if they learned anything about russia they can just continue without consequences.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel will not honor this one , just like they have not honored many in the past.

[–] germanichwurst@feddit.org 21 points 1 month ago

Yeah lmao who is gonna believe the people that bombed negociators in a sovereign third country

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Celebratory gunfire aimed at the nearest Palestinian.

This is a lunch break in preparation for the next wave of attacks.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Gunfire to celebrate a ceasefire... Nicely shows in what crazy kind of world we are living in...

But also: Phantastic news!
A really positive start into my day for a change!

I now just hope that actually works out as planned.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe it's common there to celebrate with gunfire. It probably wasn't especially chosen to celebrate ceasefire with gunfire. I could be midtown though.

When I visited Jerusalem with my wife several years ago we were also standing upright in our hotel room when we suddenly heard yelling and gunfire and when we spoke to the hotel guys they told us we shouldn't worry, it was just a wedding celebration.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is some of the crazy part.

Guns being so common and widespread that they are routinely used in everyday civil life events without anyone bashing an eyelid.

I have the slight fear that it will take a very long time until the Middle East won't regularily erupt into violant outbursts any more...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm from the region and this is a thing even in places that aren't and have historically not erupted into violent outbursts. It's just a local culture thing, and according to Wikipedia isn't even an exclusively Middle Eastern thing.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This gives me some hope. Maybe the connection to actual violence is weaker than I think.

Still a crazy form of behaviour, though. People regularily get killed by it (I just now read the mentioned Wikipedia article).

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bro it's a fucking war zone. Get a grip for fuck sake!

Not everyone live your comfortable life in a "first world" country.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Bro it's a fucking war zone.

Wouldn't that not be just another reason to not fire weapons randomly in populated areas?

But what you are saying is basically exactly what I am trying to get at:
War has become so much normalized in the region, that people just don't know otherwise any more.
Quoting the somewhat fitting Cranberries song:
"In your head, they're still fighting".
Even while a glimmer of peace is shining across the horizon.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 month ago

Ok Dolores...

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Within the week they will be back at it. Sorry to ruin it for ya.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Just let me revel in the positive illusion for a while.
Perhaps this time it is different...

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

Even as initial celebrations unfolded, details of the agreement remained unclear on Thursday, including whether the parties in Egypt had made any progress on thornier questions about the future of the conflict, such as whether Hamas will demilitarise, as Trump has demanded, and how the war-torn territory will be governed in future.

So it isn't even conclusive. There's no way to make sure Israel won't break the cease fire. There's only hostage trade. Hopefully there's more detail coming out soon.

Technically a ceasefire is just a pause in hostilities. Like if you stop bombing to refuel the bombers. And there is a good chance that Bibi will do just that.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Too early to celebrate

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Some of those gathered in the city’s hostage square said Trump should be recognised for his role in brokering the deal, calling for a “Nobel prize to Trump” as they gathered in the early hours of the morning to celebrate.

Oh, he'll love to hear that. I, for one, find it hard to give him any credit beyond 'he was there'. Then again, Biden was so incredibly weak stopping Israel, fighting under him might have dragged on for longer.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well done Trumpy. Genuinely the first good thing he's done, probably ever. Probably the last too, but this is good news.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone but him, to keep it short.

I mean, I can see that some people are easily fooled by him when he speaks like an idiot, makes silly faces and tells all the possible lies he can, but yeah, he didn't do shit.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Harris has won and took the exact same actions as Trump as it relates to Israel, which doesn't seem too unlikely given the way all of Washington on both sides kowtows to Israel, would you be taking the same stance that "she didn't do anything to help bring this about?"

Look, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I find it unlikely people would be coming out of the woodwork to slam Harris, even if she did the exact same things.

Just because someone is a villain, it doesn't mean that literally every single thing they do is villainous. I'm not gonna stop drinking Coke, just because Donald Trump drinks Coke. And I can recognize the the US was positively involved in this ceasefire negotiation, even if I hate the guy heading the US.

Trump can still be evil, even if he's right sometimes, and even if he does the right thing sometimes. He's not a comic book character. He's a very real, human kind of evil. And just because he's not stomping on puppies every day doesn't mean he's not bad.

And if you're not willing to admit when he does a good thing, your hatred isn't founded in reality, it's founded on purest tribalism.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] testfactor@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not, but congrats on finding a way to dismiss what I said without having to engage with it or do any self reflection at all.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

All I have to say is in my previous comment. See ya!

[–] frunch@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

His handlers?