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Accused shooter’s “politics” is not what government and media say

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“Regardless of the horrible actions that took place we must take this moment to remember that God is a living and loving God who loves all his children,” a Discord post from another friend posted the day after the shooting reads. “While Charlie Kirk's politics were not acceptable to some l ask that we all say a prayer for him and his family during these confusing times.”

“The last message is religious in nature which just goes to show the apolitical nature of the server, we all have pretty differing views on politics,” the friend said of the discord post.

Religion is not apolitical im afraid. Praying for Nazis is not apolitical either.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

True, but apolitical is also used as a euphemism for centrist or right-wing by the neoliberal media outlets. This euphemism is very misleading as ignorant 'independent' people hide behind it to mask the actual harm their views will cause. People like Manchin for example aren't apolitical or centrist. They are right-wing with a more presentable public persona.

Manchin and other politicians like him are essentially the fall guys for when the party doesn't actually want a bill or action to pass. Manchin, for example, voted against confirming a new member of the national labor relations board in the last days of Biden's term. He in effect sided against workers by refusing to appoint a new member to the board to uphold workers rights.

This made it easier for Trump to come along and further gut the board that is responsible for enforcing workers rights. You also get the same thing occasionally with 'libertarians' on dating apps who are also usually right-wing putting on a more respectable persona.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

To be fair I think they were using apolitical more to say that what is conventionally politics was not discussed much there and that they set aside said differences, with that post as evidence that there are different people of viewpoints and politics in the server, not that that message was apolitical, the fact that it was political but to the other side was the point

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago

Yeah, this Tyler Robinson guy, from these messages comes off as a "kinda normal Gen Z kid" to me. Trying to assign a political alignment to any of those messages seems like a huge stretch. Facts never get in the way of a rightwing narrative though.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Regardless they will form their own narrative. They will use this to put down the trans minority. Facist always have to have an enemy within. Illegals are in process. Now they moved on to trans folk. Who is next?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Guy seems pretty uh..

Pretty apolitical? Like the extent of his political commentary is a basic discussion on the function of the electoral college?

[–] sudo@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

About as politically coherent as Luigi.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We've seen it in a lot of cases of stochastic terrorism. People end up attacking a symbol that causes them distress. It can be a post office, a school, a politician, or a gay nightclub.

The problem for conservatives now is that acceptable targets have changed to senior executives and conservative commentators. What used to either be an acceptable loss or a tool of fear is now a potential existential threat that they can't quite get back control of.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Further evidence of that was Crooks would've been a school shooter but decided to do something better with his life.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 months ago

As long as it ain't the school, we good.

Regime whores are actually part of the culture wars, so when they get wacked nobody cares.

It never made sense why we have so many school shootings at least from rational perspective.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It appears to be real. I can’t find an actual copy of it though.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there a source for this?

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago

Their printer

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I just found this in the comments under the linked blogpost. https://substack.com/@volodzko/note/c-156688899

Seems fishy at best, completely made up at worst.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Worrying about evidence being discovered, in a text message to a friend confessing everything, kind of ironic

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago

So, fake as hell?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

No way will Robinson be seen in court. Very high chance he will get suicided for the sake of the agenda.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a pretty big mess. The only thing I can this is "Do you think he just wanted to be famous?"

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t get that impression from all the bits and pieces, and especially not from this breakdown. I think he’s rather intelligent (probably the smartest guy in the room most of his life considering the demographics he was surrounded by) and he really thought he was going to get away with it.

Which if he hadn’t have cracked emotionally, been turned in by his own parents, and his lover wasn’t squealing like a pig, he might have. People really underestimate how incompetent cops are (although he arguably did a ton of dumb things like use his own vehicle, use a unique family heirloom rifle, etc.)

I don’t condone what he did, I just am appalled by the absolute lack of loyalty from the people surrounding him. Just horrid…Now he gets to live long enough to watch everyone he trusted throw him to the wolves to be torn to shreds and humiliated on a global stage. Which many will agree that in itself is justice served, having that knife in the back and twisted. Good social lesson for society. Loyalty to State and fear of authority above all else.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

From what I've seen the thing that actually got him was telling his parents which then spread down the line to a pastor or smthn who was a mandated reporter. Honestly if it had just stayed on discord he might have been fine, but hard to know

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How certain can we be that these messages aren't fake?

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ken klippenstein is generally a pretty good source for such things, but it will be hard to know for sure for sure until more people cover it independently

Edit: tbh after actually reading the article I don't see any particular reason to doubt the the legitimacy

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago