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cross-posted from: https://piefed.ca/post/215371

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[–] SrMono@feddit.org 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I’m conflicted. I want to get an EV, but I don’t want to pay European prices.

A BYD Dolphin with local production and maintenance sounds more affordable than VW id.3 (starting from 33.000€). On the other hand there are Opel Corsa Electric (starting from 30.000€) and Renault 5 (starting from 28.000€) in the same segment. Renault 5 excelling in many aspects and Renault deserves some respect for being early movers/adaptors.

The current market situation (in Germany) is trash..

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Renault 5 is probably the best deal for a new car at the moment. They also have the Renault 4 coming out this year which is slightly larger and in the same price range.

I think the Corsa is more expensive, unless you're comparing older versions.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 8 months ago

I just went through the page and picked the most basic electric variant.

If an R4 is bigger than the named cars, it is not interesting. All this bigger EVs and cars are part of the problem, that we cannot have affordable small cars.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago

Corsa starts at 30.000. First selection is a combustion engine, you need to drill into the configuration to see the electric prices.

I updated my post.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably the real competitor will be the VW id.2, which is supposed to start under 25k€ next year. Also EV sales are up for some time, so buying second hand becomes an option as well.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, the failed VW line up could basically be described with “too little too late”.

BYD used that time to introduce the Dolphin Surf, which is named Seagull in other countries. The Dolphin (without surf) is a direct competitor to the ID.3

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for decent cars to trickle onto the used market. The other day I looked at some Peugeot EV that looked promising.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago

Used Nissan leafs are dirt cheap, if you only need it for short distances.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 8 points 8 months ago

Now it needs to be released from CPC control and then it would be worth considering.

[–] fizzgig@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In my opinion, there are various reasons why we should avoid technology from China.

This country is not friendly towards Europe.

It's better to buy European.

The second-hand market is already looking quite good.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry. From the looks of it European manufacturers aren’t friendly towards Europe either 😀

[–] fizzgig@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago

Of course, there is also the alternative of not buying a car at all. Problem solved.