Telling us the product so we could avoid it would be useful.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
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Other people are saying it's Vital Proteins, apparently.
"I went to the url but it was just a 404, honest. No terms, no conditions"
Make your own opening elsewhere on the package.
You're still opening it.
But if you have your friend open it, then you are not opening and consuming the product.
Of course, with such draconian rules, one should not drink that stuff anyway.
Open it. Return it. Repeat.
Some one should sue them for the maximum highest costs calculable for the travel time of having to return their products buying a new substitute brand, and going back home + legal fees.
Then that person should buy the product again to see if there's still an agreement in place, and sue them again.
return it after opening and consuming. the text does not say if you do not agree do not open. nor does it say you can’t agree, open, then disagree.
Lmfao protein additives (or whatever that is) now come with a EULA…? What a time to be alive 🫠
I can't imagine that's enforcible. It is a reasonable expectation that when you purchase the product, you are free to use the product without further limitations being put upon you. They'd have to have you agree to arbitration before purchase, wouldn't they?
In the US it might stand-up unfortunately.
Might, but that article is in reference to digital products and not physical ones.
Exactly. There's no license involved here. This is pants on fire levels of stupid.
The article is bad at explaining this, but the origin of the term is software that you would buy, you would then be presented with a EULA (after opening the shrink wrap on the box), then you would be unable to return it because it was opened.
It originated in the 80s before digital goods were really a thing.
Is that even legal?
Almost certainly not. Just like click-through terms (terms that are offered only by link with an Ok button) are not enforceable. It's just there to dissuade those that assume it has any weight, which isclikely most people that are not lawyers or filthy rich who would consult a lawyer anyways if they got hurt.
It's almost certainly on similar legal grounds to a cease and decist letter. You're not being sued, you're just being warned that they don't like you via legalese.
I would have thought that that applied to the Uber wrongful death suit also, but at least one court decided that type of click-through terms were binding even though it was clearly a bunch of shit.
Although, it was overturned later because it's a bunch of shit. But it was at least a debate.
Depends: how poor are you?
No, but they can use it to drag out the court case until you run out of money.
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Vital proteins take themselves a bit serious. I’d send it back. Terms and conditions my @$$.
Idiot behavior from self important companies should not be rewarded.
I have completely agreed to the terms of 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR.
Next there will be cookie banners
This is what I imagine buying kratom is like
Not really. They just hand you the powder in a pouch and say "that'll be $16.42, please".
You can disagree to the terms by pulling it open the other way around.
Has this been revealed after opening product? What a shit company. Are customers expected to read the T&C's every time someone opens the packaging? FYI, the page mentioned links to 4 additional pages and one of them is a 404.
What is this ridiculous product?
An unregulated "nutritional" supplement. If it puts you on dialysis for the rest of your life - arbitration only and the best they can offer is a 25% discount on your next purchase. Limit 2.
Alright then, dear trusted canopener: We have a mission to perform at the other end.