Ask Lemmy

Maybe the idea that Epstein was at the head of a global network of paedophiles, involved with trafficking young girls and boys for the likes of Trump, Clinton and Gates is fanciful.

Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.

The idea that this is all some Mossad psi-op to influence US politics is also bonkers and predictably falls into classic anti-semitic tropes.

Is it tittilating and fun to speculate about with people online? Sure. Does social and traditional media love a good juicy story like this and will continue to give it play and play? Absolutely.

Propriety, ironically.

Probably a lot of people on both sides.

guilty by association.

Your premise is wrong. The Democrats never had the list, and the Republicans don't have it now. The people who actually have that list, and those documents, have names. Use those names. Don't trick yourself into believing that some random congressperson has access or authority.

What is "the list"? How do we know the government even has "the list"?

I assume because there were some high profile dems on the list.

For the same reason republicans won't: They're on the list, their friends are on the list and their donors are on the list.

Because most of their big money donors are also on the list.

Bill Clinton.

Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he'd never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.

Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren't their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.

because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,,,etc.

Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don't want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

But ok, let's assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn't matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn't release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.

Because Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin?

Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.

The thing that's the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.

No idea, but I read the title like it was the setup to a joke.

What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it's not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.

Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party's MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.