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Faces too much the same (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 weeks ago by sticksandbonesexec@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world
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Hello, Ive been using perchance so non stop since its inception, The note that is now gone said that it would be training. How long till it does faces again like before? - Dont get me wrong how well it handles prompts now as far as getting ecactly the things you specified is awesome, but the models for faces, its all the same lips and hair EVERY time, and faces i used to get flawless are now nowhere close. It will do marilyn Monroe perfectly, but wont do anyone rlse less famous very good at all which it used to do. TIRED of the teased hair and botox/lip fillers. If it did faces like it used to with these new improvements it would be perfect

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[–] dannooppo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I picked a random text2image generator from the generator list

Art Style: No Style No Negative, Guidance Scale 7

With the prompts you really need to be aware that an x year old woman can yield quite older looking females than an x year young woman. The same can be said of woman vs. girl vs. female. Depending on the run the differences can be quite distinct.

And A professional casual photo... vs. A casual photo... will definitely yield different results. The same goes for professional casual and casual professional.

...old woman

Prompt: A casual photo of a genuine {23|24|25|26|27}-year old woman, she has an {aquiline|up-turned|celestial|button} nose, and is of {German|Dutch|Belgian|French|Welsh} ancestry.

...young woman

Prompt: A casual photo of a genuine {23|24|25|26|27}-year young woman, she has an {aquiline|up-turned|celestial|button} nose, and is of {German|Dutch|Belgian|French|Welsh} ancestry.

...young female

Prompt: A casual photo of a genuine {23|24|25|26|27}-year young female, she has an {aquiline|up-turned|celestial|button} nose, and is of {German|Dutch|Belgian|French|Welsh} ancestry.

[–] ccufcc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wasp stinged lips haha 🤣

[–] Koto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Try proving a few more details. You can't be vague with the new model, it'll fallback to the basics it was trained in. And it's obvious that the flex females predominantly had lip contouring.

[–] sticksandbonesexec@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thats really not it, I mean tyhis is nowhere close to the face i wanted but marilyn monroe is a perfect likeness, so it can do SOME faces fine but not as many as before

[–] enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah famous people were removed. Monroe is so iconic that you probably can't isolate the training data, the same for most presidents or elvis or people like that.

Try throwing some minor variable data into the descriptions of your character, example: A casual photo of a genuine {23|24|25|26|27}-year old woman, she has an {aquiline|up-turned|celestial|button} nose, and is of {German|Dutch|Belgian|French|Welsh} ancestry.

The actual characteristics don't mean anything in real life, but you can get it to stop being so monotonous in the renders this way. Sometimes a simple change of age changes the template of whatever its rendering.

Another thing to try is t not rely on presets. Professional Photo is especially annoying because of how limited the "look" is. Instead, try "No Style", and hack up the presets. Try taking some of the added tags from 90s photo for example.

Also, telling it to be unique sometimes actually helps. "She has a unique beauty" and so on.

It's really annoying but possible to get it to stop doing what you describe.

[–] DaddyAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So you're saying this as in you have great success with this tactic? Please provide results with prompts.

[–] enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, I have had some success with it. It's rather difficult to simply reproduce an issue like this. If you have a prompt where you are getting a lot of the same faces, maybe you can post it here and I can try what I've suggested on it or see if I can help.

Off the bat, the Professional photo preset has a lot of same-ish output. Using 90s photo or Casual Photo, I assume because the training data (social media photos, family, school & work snaps etc.) is just so incredibly diverse, will by default tend to offer more variation.

[–] Koto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just hit "randomize" several times in my generator and they all look like different people to me. Of course, you need to fill a lot of details which my generator does for you, so you don't have to type anything.

[–] enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless I'm mistaken, the OP wanted a diversity along the lines of the same prompts, not simply randomized output. All of your images there are tapping into vastly different domains. Try describing a human being with the constraints of a scene, clothes, a particular action, and that's where it can get homogeneous.

[–] Koto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Same prompts lead to the same results, give or take. The OP said FACES and EVERY TIME in caps, suggesting he's getting the same faces everytime he's using the i2t which is not true. I was just trying to point out that there are ways to describe many details and change that.