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It’s rare for Italian lawmakers from across the political spectrum to agree on anything. But on Tuesday, the lower house of Parliament unanimously ratified a law introducing the crime of femicide into Italy’s criminal code, punishable by life in prison.

(title from entry in NYT's The Morning newsletter)

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but extending it to gender in general if that’s not reflective of crime statistics increases the costs of investigation by a lot

So, your defense of gender discrimination is unsubstantiated economic expediency? Do you even pretend to care about morality or equality before the law?

Unresearched claims of increasing "costs of investigation by a lot" don't justify immorality & violating a universal human right for equal protection of the law. It's not hard to quit rationalizing the indefensible & admit femicide should have been addressed through a nondiscriminatory law on gendercide.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many of the men who are murdered in Italy are killed for being men? If it’s a large proportion (for women in Italy, it’s over half), then sure, apply it to them.

Maybe bring that up with the Italian government. I’m sure they’d respond well to a letter with the same tone as your comment. I’m not continuing this conversation with you though.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Irrelevant, because again

  1. Justice is not a 0-sum game: generalizing the increase in penalties to any gender hatred accomplishes the same without gender discrimination.

  2. Did you know there are other genders in the world? Your bias is showing.

Maybe bring that up with the Italian government.

Not arguing with them, arguing with your immoral defense.

I’m not continuing this conversation with you though.

As if anyone should care? Abandon your argument: it's clearly not worth defending.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Nah, you’re just rude, aggressive, and not intending to discuss or understand , but to cudgel. My time’s worth more. Blocked :)