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I've known this was a thing since GM first got sued.
I knew every manufacturer was doing it since there's too much money to be made.
I want a new car but I'm sticking to my 2010 Honda until it dies... Which might be awhile!
I just hope it lasts until the FTC and Congress do something about this. Unlikely though.
I need to reseach whatever I want as a replacement to hope I can just yank a fuse to kill the cellular connection. Then never go to a dealer for service.
If your Honda dies, I'd recommend looking for a low miles Buick park avenue or lesabre (2006 or older). If they have the 3.8l v6 (not the 3.1), they're pretty bullet-proof, super cheap, comfortable, crash test well, and can go up to 300k miles with normal maintainence. Honestly the closest the US came to Toyota/honda car levels of reliability.
Just buy used Toyotas from ~2016 and back. My newest vehicle is a 2015 Highlander - no telemetry, much less a connection to the internet. Only 118k miles, and is easily the sharpest car I've ever had. Drives incredibly good for what it is, and carves mountain roads surprisingly well.
Anyway... You're not limited to ancient pre-OBD EFI vehicles. Many modern cars barely made within the last 10 years fall into this category.