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Realistically, unless something dramatically changes, there's no way the DNC would allow her to get the nomination for either position during the primary process.
The party will support the most establishment option available to them. But this is the first time in about 25 to 30 years that there isn't a popular, eligible VP. Or party heavy hitter sitting on deck waiting to go. Harris kinda hillaried herself. Who are they gonna run. Fetterman?
If, we have elections in 2028. Ocassio Cortez might be the most viable "establishment adjacent" candidate available to them. With someone like Stewart being a Sanders style populist outsider. But that's still over three years away and the rate everything is accelerating. We might not make it.
I think the primary, if she runs for president, will consist of Pritzger, Newsom and her. This is speculation from September 2025, so a lot of shit will change between then and now. Chilling as it is to say, there's no guarantee all three will still be alive.
I don't think we'll get any clarity until we see how 2026 plays out.
Shapiro, Buttigieg, Newsom, Pritzker. Hell, the Dem establishment would rather Bloomberg run and win than have AOC in office.
As it is right now, PA would vote for Shapiro. He's won a lot of goodwill by getting the department of transportation to actually complete road repair projects in reasonable timeframes.
Here's to hoping the Democrats see the sign of the times before it's too late.
The way legal corruption works in the US though - maybe they get paid for losing the election? Interesting thought.
How realistic is a boring DNC candidate overcoming whatever this is. Perhaps it's time to part ways with the DNC & just make a new Dem party without them. Though admittedly ripping off the bandaid now could be catastrophic timing, I don't even know.
Actually incredibly realistic, which is the biggest problem.
If the U.S. still has free and fair elections in 2028, it's quite likely that the American people will reject the GOP in favor of literally anything else. That means the DNC is free to run the most bland, milquetoast neoliberal whose name rhymes with "lose some," who will do nothing to stop material conditions from deteroriating further nor impose serious consequences on MAGA. Then, four years after his election, U.S. voters will vote for an intelligent fascist because they don't want an ineffective do-nothing Democrat.
i think the “party with in a party” strategy is much more promising than outright 3rd party runs. As in using the Democratic ticket to make their candidates relevant, but not using the democrats electoral and fundraising infrastructure, instead developing parallel party infrastructure to campaign and mobilize voters.
The DSA (and WFP to a lesser extent) have been much more electorally successful, particularly at the local level, than organizations that just run third party outright. I don’t think the DSA will have much luck in suburban areas, but I think other coalitions with a similar strategy could be successful.
As realistic as what happened in 2016 with the full weight of the DNC being brought to bear on Sanders.