The Problem with the Fediverse
I have no issues with the way it is implemented, I have no issues with it at all. For context, I left Twitter to join the Fedi, and it has been great so far! I use Misskey for microblogging, PeerTube for uploading videos, and Lemmy for Reddit-style discussions. The Fediverse is amazing!
Except, idk, for the fact that it is too fragmented? I hope I am using the right words. Like, the current instance I am on does not have support for communities, so i have to do it the hard way and mention @fediverse@lemmy.world so that I can post here. It's a good workaround, considering it doesn't have built-in support for communities.
But my point still stands. It's not a Lemmy/PieFed problem. It's mostly a fediverse problem. Implementing communities for every platform would help the Fediverse. Not only does it solve discoverability/algorithm issues of the Fediverse (since now when you follow a community, you get all posts from that community), but also it would interconnect every platform (Misskey, PeerTube, Mastodon, etc.)
Imagine you don't have to use your Lemmy account to check everything on Lemmy. Instead of creating channels in PeerTube, just post to an existing channel/community, and people subscribed to that channel/community can find you easily. I see this as an absolute win for everyone.
I understand this would require collaboration between all developers of all software. But hopefully, this is possible?
Or am I asking for too much?
If I am wrong, then is there any way in which we can solve this issue?
I really don't mind having a separate account for Lemmy and Mastodon. It's not pleasant to force different types of content into different website formats, even if the implementation is "ideal".
That said, I am surprised Misskey doesn't allow you to follow @fediverse@lemmy.world as you would follow a user, Mastodon allows this (it's not as good as viewing inside Lemmy but it does work).
Yeah same. The way I think about federation is in a kind of per “product” approach. That’s a piece of software can be run by anyone and all communicate and work as a whole is the main benefit. Cross compatibility between “products”/software is just an added bonus, but not necessary
Even more than per product, it's generally per category of products. You can run Lemmy, Mbin, or PieFed and get access to the Threadiverse. The devs actually do a good job with the interop when it fits the format of their site.
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com i just checked your full conversation on your instance (misskey doesnt support edited posts)
Misskey does support following the community, its just not done elegantly. All replies from the community show up on my home page, which isnt great.
For now, ill stick with misskey till i find a worthy contender, just love msky reactions too much (too goofy lol, with sfx and all)
@fediverse@lemmy.world
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com i get you. And well after seeing yalls arguments, might as well build my own software with PeerTube+Lemmy+Misskey stocked into one. And it'll help with my coding experience too @fediverse@lemmy.world
Do it! You'll probably find like-minded users. Don't forget PixelFed and Loops too.
Although maybe you could just contribute to Mbin or fork it, cause I feel like it already does all of this?
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com will definately check out mbin too. Ill get a computer soon, and then ill start contributing to mbin and hopefully they see my plea for help lol... i love how different people from different platforms get along in the fediverse, coz on Twitter it was so different... and that was before Musk, so i must imagine it must have gotten worse... @fediverse@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/
You can pick any of these: https://joinmbin.org/servers/
@mkmusic@torishiro.com Thank you for considering Mbin.
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org I tried mbin (registered an account for my brother). The UI isnt that bad, UI is actually well-built, i think what scared me was the the different terminologies. On mbin, you have magazines instead of communities, and microblog instead of posts. But it's not that it's bad, youll get used to it.
The disorganised yet connect nature of the fediverse is something we'll have to get used to. It's like how we all can appreciate different cultures from different countries around the world and be able to share and appreciate one another despite differences in culture. The real problem isnt with the Fediverse, it's with how culturally "bland" social media is now...
Ive checked the repo too, but since ive just started with coding, i do not understand anything... :mei_cry: ill try my best to contribute however i can, really want to see mbin continue the legacy...
@fediverse@lemmy.world...
@mkmusic@torishiro.com we have several first good issues, allowing people to start contributing: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues?q=state%3Aopen+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22
Of course you can also join our matrix, if you have not already and help others: https://matrix.to/#/#mbin-general:melroy.org
Or you can also help with documentation. See docs folder: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/tree/main/docs
Or help with translations: https://hosted.weblate.org/engage/mbin/
There are many ways how people can help and contribute!
It makes me mad how many people refused to leave Twitter, or even just diversify to posting on other platforms, even if they're supposed to be left leaning politically...
GamesDoneQuick for example, they always say "trans rights" and yet their only social media account was on Twitter, until they joined Bluesky just 5 months ago and they still post on both. I don't get it. They could've made a Bluesky or Mastodon account years ago, even if they keep posting to Twitter just mirror your posts!
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com a lot of people do this... its just sad, coz they can make a fuss all about their tool and still use it. Its sheer hypocrisy @fediverse@lemmy.world
I'm able to on sharkey (fork of misskey).
@irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com You can actually edit on Misskey. It's just the instance I'm on (great instance btw) doesn't allow edits to prevent messing up federation, etc...