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Is this more 'both sides the same' nonsense?
Do we think dems will save us? Let's say a huge blue wave happens. A Democrat wins every election for the next 2 years. What would they do?
What have they done so far? Ofc I'll vote dem but thinking they will be the ones to save us will only lead to disappointment.
Nope, unless we get involved in the primaries and push for proper progressives like Mamdani. Candidates without AIPAC or super PAC money. unless we vote for them in the primaries, then dems will just keep screwing us.
And winning the primary doesn't mean the AIPAC won't betray you.
I think it's not that "the dems" will save us, but that the structural flaws of our system mean that progressives getting into power at the federal level need to do so by winning democrat primaries.
Don't expect the AIPAC Democrats to play fair!
That's fair, probably the most effective course of action at the moment. That's how the Leaders We Deserve PAC is operating I believe. Still within the two party system getting people to vote and running as democrats.
I guess when I say "dems" I mean "establishment democrats". Like Biden, Kamala, Clinton etc.
They will keep everything that Trump has implemented in place, the 1% will continue to get richer while we get poorer. We will still be at a constant state of war. Like Biden and politicians have said throughout time, nothing will fundamentally change
The ACA was better than nothing
It was, still is. I never liked the argument "well it could be worse" when things should be better.
What I am saying is, that is something they did so far, and something they might plausibly do is reverse the changes to it that mean millions of people can't have health insurance.
I'll take that as a "yes". Thanks for your participation, in the discussion. @K1nsey6@lemmy.world & @AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world So what's your plan? Are you expecting to initiate change by whining on federated social media? Just askin'.
Why don't you actually read my comment since I already told you what I will do.
Theres an actual document called What Is To Be Done. You might want to check it out instead of asking for other people to do your work.
Whenever a liberal asks, what is the plan? They do that as a thought terminating question because they don't want to hear what the plan is unless it involves their party
Ah, and so you reference a PDF from 1902 (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/download/what-itd.pdf) link not provided because you assume I won't bother to look for your reference. Lenin knew, given the magickal crystal ball he possessed, all the way back in 1902 what was going to happen 124 years later? smh. Who is trying to terminate discussion? It seems to be you.
It's always the libs crying on social media suffering the consequences of their own inaction by voting for the lesser evil and attempting nothing.
Maybe cut the snark, when the problem has already been accurately described in 1870 and you embarrassingly are still in that situation and continuing the clown show that is your 'politics'
Why do I get the feeling you're not being genuine? Like tucker carlson going "I'm just asking questions here."
"Your idea references a document from 1902, therefore it's bad".
The basic principles have not changed and neither have the parties.
And like I said we are not doing the work for you
You are not doing the work yourself. Referencing a document from 1902, not explaining how it is relevant 124 years later, and not describing anything actionable leads to an inevitable conclusion that you only express these things to feel better about yourself without making a material impact. You have had dozens of replies in this post to explain yourself and you haven't come close.
It doesn't matter if you think you shouldn't do the work for other people. You can't even describe your own point of view.
You can piss on other people, but after being prompted time and again to explain why your view is better you have not. Plain and simple.
Yes
what has political decisions that you could actually vote for done in the last 50 years? all the big technological breakthroughs happened in semiconductor factories, i don't see your vote making a difference.
Well I voted against the North Carolina bathroom bill that passed. That accomplished making Old North's few thousand trans people shit at home.
It's also made more than a few people on the Fediverse blame me for it passing, despite my vote AGAINST. Using the same broken logic that a vote against Kamala was a vote for Palestine...somefuckinghow.
By the way, does Palestine still exist? I haven't heard much about Palestine since Iran suddenly started existing again.
Things can't get better until you realize you are not the good guys